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rastus

PeteB wrote(and I promise to stay off this thread from now on... )

Rubbish... you addict, you! You need an intervention (maybe more than one)! You'll be back.

PeteB

@[deleted], yes, and I did buy the transformer version for that very reason,

However, I suspect most people don't, and also, according to posts on the HiFiBerry forum, their implementation leaves something to be desired. They sometimes recommend shorting across the transformer, which leads me to believe they know there is a potential problem.

edit:

I guess I do need the 12-steps, LOL

rastus

PeteB wrote...their implementation leaves something to be desired. They sometimes recommend shorting across the transformer, which leads me to believe they know there is a potential problem.

Maybe that's what Tommy was going on about then... no wait, he was talking about the DAC, my bad.

PeteB wroteI guess I do need the 12-steps, LOL

Told ya, knew you'd be back... now repeat after me: I accept what I cannot change.... emm.

foxint

Hi Guys
Thank you....my Digi+ is the transformer version - they told me this was good.

This is what I have observed: Playing the same file

Using Digi+/Rune a 44.1bit flac file shows as 44.1 on the DAC - good sound
Using Digi+/Rune a 96.0 bit flac file shows as 96.0 on the DAC - bad sound
Using Digi+/Rune a 192.0 bit flac file shows as no signal on the DAC - no sound

Using Media Monkey a 44.1bit flac file shows as 44.1 on the DAC - good sound
Using Media Monkey a 96.0 bit flac file shows as 44.1 on the DAC - good sound
Using Media Monkey a 192.0 bit flac file shows as 44.1 on the DAC - good sound

Well I am totally confused.... I have Realteck HD Audio and even when I change the bit rate it nothing happens.....I have ticked all the boxes: 44.1/44/96/192

To my way of understanding....the DAC is working....but why is nothing over 90 any good. Plus why is my MM only showing 44.1Hz. I am going to have to ask MM.

Does this shed any light on the issue?

D

hondagx35

Hi,

PeteB wrote(and I promise to stay off this thread from now on... )

Please do not, we have to switch on a light for foxint.

@[deleted]:

hondagx35 wrote:
The sample rate accepted by the DAC can be limited. Please check the settings on your Little Dot.

foxint wrote:
The DAC is automatic and it "should" detect the rates.

PeteB wrote@[deleted]: According to the review, this DAC has a user selectable maximum freq. The maximum defaults to 192K (except the USB which is 41K/48K). So I am guessing that the DAC does not differentiate between the optical and coax inputs, and setting a max is up to the user.

So, user has two options. 1) buy a coax cable 2) use the optical cable and set the maximum manually, in which case the DAC and MPD will play nice and only 96K will be sent over the optical cable to the DAC. In either case, the answer is reading one paragraph, and a few clicks of the front panel buttons away.

Yes.
I only wanted to show you, that i already told him to check this.

The biggest question is:
How can we get foxint to understand why it does not work
and what he has to do so it will work.

Frank

PeteB

@[deleted]: Ok got it. It was too early here, I wrote that before I was properly caffeinated...

rastus

foxint wroteI have HiFi Berry Digi+. Since the Digi+ has both RCA and Optical....

It's coax brother, a coaxial cable connector. Not RCA, if you keep saying it's RCA you going to confuse people (and me). Did you try what PeteB told you to try?

foxint wrote...my Digi+ is the transformer version - they told me this was good.

It is very good. Did you try what PeteB told you to try?

foxint wroteWell I am totally confused....

I will restrain myself. Did you try what PeteB told you to try?

foxint wroteDoes this shed any light on the issue?

Nope... not at all. Did you try what PeteB told you to try?

Santa Claus (aka PeteB) wrote...Secondly, you can choose the maximum sampling rate. You can choose between 96 kHz and 192 kHz. Press the FUNC button to choose, then on the INPUT button to save the configuration...

Santa Claus (aka PeteB) wroteSo, user has two options. 1) buy a coax cable 2) use the optical cable and set the maximum manually, in which case the DAC and MPD will play nice and only 96K will be sent over the optical cable to the DAC. In either case, the answer is reading one paragraph, and a few clicks of the front panel buttons away.

PS: Frank.... really... this is a first, for you!

hondagx35

Who is Santa Claus?

rastus

hondagx35 wroteWho is Santa Claus?

He's that guy, that climbs down your chimney at Christmas time, and gives you gifts!

Do you want me to 'fix' it?

hondagx35

rastus wroteDo you want me to 'fix' it?

What?

foxint

Hi Guys

Sorry to piss you off...but still not working.

The HiFiBerry Digi+ has an RCA not a Coax.

I set the Little Dot to 24bit 192....played a 24 bit 192 file and nothing; 24 bit 96 (DAC shows 96) bad sound; 16 bit 44.1 (DAC shows 44.1) good sound.

So what is next??

PeteB

The single round connector on the DIGI+ that you are calling RCA, that is actually a connector for a coax digital audio cable. It is white, and next to the optical cable connector. There will be a corresponding single connector on the back of your DAC, also white, labeled input. On the DAC it may be labeled RCA, that is common with Chinese gear. Wrong, but common. It takes a cable like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice102743-Digital-Coaxial-Audio-Video/dp/B003NMVG64/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463873457&sr=8-1&keywords=spdif+coax+cable

The cables generally cost less than $10 online.

If you don't like spending $10 on a new cable, then you have to set your DAC to 96K, and hope for the best...

Based on the review you posted, a new cable is your best bet. Good luck!

hondagx35

Hi foxint,

for your education:

The most common type of digital audio connection is coaxial.
A "digital coaxial connector" looks like an RCA connector, but it isn't one.
A traditional RCA cable isn't shielded, nor does it have the bandwidth that coaxial cable provides.
A "digital coaxial cable" offers 75-ohm impedance and a wider frequency bandwidth than unshielded RCA cable.
Normal RCA audio cable may also work for digital audio use, but not over longer distance and with high bitrates.

So what is next??

Get a coaxial or a good short audio cable with RCA connectors and try it again.

edit: Pete was faster

Frank

rastus

foxint wroteSorry to piss you off...but still not working.

So what is next??

foxint > No one is 'pissed off', there are three guys trying to help you with this. If we were (I was) pissed off we (I) would ignore you, then you would know we are (I was) pissed off. You have our undying attention. Skip the 'insecurities' and let's get down to business...

Can you upload one, just one, of the music files that you tried to play that won't play correctly? Can you upload one of them? So we (I) can play it on our (my) system and try it for ourselves, to rule out that the file itself is in good working order... and to check if our (my) card with RuneAudio plays the file correctly... can you do that?

The music file with 0kbps would be a good start I think....

foxint

Hi Guys

Thank you

I will up/download files (Rainbow Wind -16bit/44.1/0kbps: - would not load...the browser just went white.....will try later - thanks

Very interesting.... so if I type this into an eBay search I should get the right thing:

SPDIF 75 Ohm Digital Coaxial Audio/Video RCA Cable 10m

I have the CD transport (Little Dot) connected to the DAC via BNC (I thought that was coax). So I have this "RCA" free.

OK...thank you... I am going to get myself into trouble (again) by asking.....is there such thing as a "SPDIF 75 Ohm Digital Coaxial Audio/Video RCA Cable" SWITCH....so I can connect the PC (so I can watch/listen to videos etc) and connect the Pi to the switch and switch between the.

Or is this not right??

Thanks
D
PS...tried to submit this for the last 10 mins....

foxint

Mate

Tried to up/download the flac file and it just would not happen....

Thanks for the suggestion, but it is not happening....another technical issue....

Even this small submission is taking far to long...the page keeps goint white...ahhh
D

rastus

You can buy a 75 Ohm Digital Coaxial Audio/Video RCA (only the connector on each end is an RCA type, not the cable) Cable 10m from KMart (I've seen them there), maybe even Officeworks, Coles, Woolworths or Target. Tell me what stores you have local there and I'll find one for you and send you a link.

Stereo RCAs have plastic red and white in the connector itself... coax RCA's are yellow. These were primarily used for TV antennae. You may also notice that with stereo RCA's, the center pin in the middle of the connector does not stick out as far as the center pin in the middle of the coax 'RCA' connectors.

"I have the CD transport (Little Dot) connected to the DAC via BNC (I thought that was coax)."

Yes, I believe it is a coaxial cable, with BNC connectors on the ends. So we have cable types, and connector types, and never the twain shall meet. I know it seems like we are nick-picking, but if we become confused about which cable your using, or which connector, then we will give you incorrect advice and then we will look like dip-shiits.

Like for instance, we did not know you had a coax cable, with BNC connectors, as we do not as yet know how to read minds... we only know how to ask questions and wait for answers (that be your role in all this), then we picture these answers in our minds-eye so we can make recommendations back to you.

By the way, we ARE working on mind altering drugs that will assist us to read minds, only to be used on the RuneAudio forum of course. We will then be able to email answers to questions before they are asked, this will of course reduce bandwidth related issues when running a forum such as this one...

rastus

foxint wroteOK...thank you... I am going to get myself into trouble (again) by asking.....is there such thing as a "SPDIF 75 Ohm Digital Coaxial Audio/Video RCA Cable" SWITCH....so I can connect the PC (so I can watch/listen to videos etc) and connect the Pi to the switch and switch between the.

Yes YOU are. Can we leave the SWITCH issue for another thread? Can we just please deal with one thing at a time (until the mind altering drug is ready), then we won't have to deal with anything, just give answers.

HAS the problem you first brought up in post #1 of this thread been solved?

Did you do what PeteB suggested?

Have you now given up on that whole issue?

If you have given up on it, then I will be happy to move on to the SWITCH issue.

foxint

Hi Guys

Your support and help is very much appreciated. I am sorry if I did not provide enouhg informaiton. Seems like there are a lot of variables in digital music. A huge learning curve.

No my problem is not fixed and it remains.

I have ordered a: 10m Single RCA Cable for Subwoofer or Digital Coaxial Audio or Composite Video. From eBay AUD14.95, I resisted the more expensive ones....I live in the bush and if it did exist here it would be 3 - 4 times more than the real world. I will be interested to see the result.

Thanks
D

hondagx35

Hi foxint,

is your optical cable the same length (10m)?

Frank

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